Comments on: Master and Student http://www.tandao.com/2009/04/23/the-title-of-master/ For the Evolving Martial Artist Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:40:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: arnuld http://www.tandao.com/2009/04/23/the-title-of-master/comment-page-1/#comment-2893 arnuld Fri, 26 Jun 2009 10:33:49 +0000 http://www.tandao.com/?p=1646#comment-2893 In year 1620, a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_Galilei" rel="nofollow"> Galileo Galilei </a> was put under house arrest because he told the public that Earth moves around the Sun but religious people believed otherwise. He was stripped off his instruments, his books, the writing he had written over a decade of hard work. Years later he died, while still in house arrest. Today as of 2009, people have accepted that Sun is stationary and its the Earth that moves around. Now Earth was moving around the Sun in 1620, and 100 years before that and now after 1000s of years it still moves around. So no matter what people believe or want <b> you </b> to believe, the truth remains the truth. your beliefs don't affect it. Same is true for the relationship of the Master and Disciple. A good Master (the one who has really mastered his art) is always what makes a good Martial-Artist (provided the student is dedicated enough). No matter what people say or believe, I don't think a man can learn the fundamentals and basic skills required in Martial-Arts without a good Master. I look at myself, what I believed before studied under Master Tan and what I believe now. Since my early childhood I have met some Martial-Arts practitioners along the way but Master Tan's knowledge seems beyond all that. I am doing exercises which I never wanted to, I was s closed-minded about them. People look at the relationship of a Master-Disciple in a traditional sense but beyond that tradition, beyond 1000 years, there is a technical competence, the well grounded foundation and the expertise of a Master which is what known as enlightenment when passed form a Master to his disciple. This is independent of any art or style or any school, its the individual Master and the individual disciple and the transfer of knowledge. In year 1620, a Galileo Galilei was put under house arrest because he told the public that Earth moves around the Sun but religious people believed otherwise. He was stripped off his instruments, his books, the writing he had written over a decade of hard work. Years later he died, while still in house arrest. Today as of 2009, people have accepted that Sun is stationary and its the Earth that moves around.

Now Earth was moving around the Sun in 1620, and 100 years before that and now after 1000s of years it still moves around. So no matter what people believe or want you to believe, the truth remains the truth. your beliefs don’t affect it. Same is true for the relationship of the Master and Disciple. A good Master (the one who has really mastered his art) is always what makes a good Martial-Artist (provided the student is dedicated enough). No matter what people say or believe, I don’t think a man can learn the fundamentals and basic skills required in Martial-Arts without a good Master.

I look at myself, what I believed before studied under Master Tan and what I believe now. Since my early childhood I have met some Martial-Arts practitioners along the way but Master Tan’s knowledge seems beyond all that. I am doing exercises which I never wanted to, I was s closed-minded about them.

People look at the relationship of a Master-Disciple in a traditional sense but beyond that tradition, beyond 1000 years, there is a technical competence, the well grounded foundation and the expertise of a Master which is what known as enlightenment when passed form a Master to his disciple. This is independent of any art or style or any school, its the individual Master and the individual disciple and the transfer of knowledge.

]]> By: Chris Bennett http://www.tandao.com/2009/04/23/the-title-of-master/comment-page-1/#comment-1239 Chris Bennett Thu, 23 Apr 2009 23:05:49 +0000 http://www.tandao.com/?p=1646#comment-1239 Yes, these days there seems to be more masters than students. And my definition of a master is not a person who has superior fighting skills and knowledge although that is important. A master I believe should live the philosophy of the art in everyday life and not just in a training hall. It's the behaviour not just the philosophising that determines if someone is a true master or a student of the arts. Regards Chris Bennett Yes, these days there seems to be more masters than students. And my definition of a master is not a person who has superior fighting skills and knowledge although that is important.

A master I believe should live the philosophy of the art in everyday life and not just in a training hall. It’s the behaviour not just the philosophising that determines if someone is a true master or a student of the arts.

Regards

Chris Bennett

]]> By: Rose http://www.tandao.com/2009/04/23/the-title-of-master/comment-page-1/#comment-1232 Rose Thu, 23 Apr 2009 18:00:07 +0000 http://www.tandao.com/?p=1646#comment-1232 Yes, it's sad really, how some things are changing. And although the "coach" idea is great for sports, I really feel that a Master Teacher is needed for the holistic approach to martial arts: mind, body and spirit. The same thing is happening with Yoga. You have teachers who help students attain the proper asana positons, but don't do meditation. This is especially true in places like exercise clubs. I think there's something to be said for the Masters, just like Master Po whose wisdom, even though he was a fictional TV character, inspired me to learn more about myself. That's why I had started doing Yoga and meditation in my 20's. Great post. Love Rose Yes, it’s sad really, how some things are changing. And although the “coach” idea is great for sports, I really feel that a Master Teacher is needed for the holistic approach to martial arts: mind, body and spirit.

The same thing is happening with Yoga. You have teachers who help students attain the proper asana positons, but don’t do meditation. This is especially true
in places like exercise clubs.

I think there’s something to be said for the Masters, just like Master Po whose wisdom, even though he was a fictional TV character, inspired me to learn more about myself. That’s why I had started doing Yoga and meditation in my 20′s.

Great post.
Love
Rose

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